And this is the first conversation. We will have more series of conversations with you. Okay? Inshallah. Inshallah, Inshallah. Arif sir is giving this matter a lot of importance. Arif sir is giving it a lot of importance, you understand? For this reason, we actually want the conversation to start. And for this reason, seven of our people are waiting for you to start. Yes, and we talked with many people. If you could kindly tell me your name. My name is Jakawat Uddin Ahmed. It starts with Z, right? Yes, yes, yes. Okay, wait. Jakawat Uddin Ahmed. I think your name was missing before. Actually, I myself am not a traditional employee. An employee, not a so-called employee. Because I am an external employee of Nipro JMI Pharma. I see. I actually work here as an in-between for Monon Soft, then Nipro JMI Pharma, or Unido, for everyone. Yes. Okay. So, your name's spelling, please tell me the spelling. Z-A-K-A. Hmm. W-A-T-H. Jakawat? Uddin, U-D-D-I-N. Uddin. Ahmed, A-H-M-E-D. Okay, Jakawat Uddin Ahmed. Okay. I'm creating the sheet.

What is your position? My designation here is Data Analyst. And my scope of work is different. When I joined here, I joined for three months, and that was for master data collection, yes. To collect the master data of Nipro JMI Pharma, yes. Because pharmaceutical data is not your usual data, yes. Because for a single procurement, you have a certificate of analysis, an analytical report sheet, yes, its measurement, the measuring layers are different. The supplier, manufacturer, then the second manufacturer, product, finished goods manufacturer, everyone's analysis is different, yes. But there is a base, there must be similarity. These coordinations or understandings, or... The main thing is, I consider a software to be an engine, yes. And to run it, the master data that is needed, that master data works like a wheel, or it works as a road, as a path. Your engine has to run, right? That is the work I have mainly done. I see. How do you, um, do it, collect the data or how do you implement it? The thing is, the program analysts or managers who were here, they had already prepared the tables, yes. The forms, the tables, the scripts were prepared, yes. So, the development of this script or the matter of making it suitable for the institution's needs, and the master data that was needed to run it according to the table or demand, yes, those things. My subject is the coordination between the two parties, you should think of the main subject as coordination. Work is never difficult. I never think work is difficult. Not me, no one should think so. What is difficult is people. No, I am asking you the question, how do you collect the data? You... That's what is related. For example, what comes first for me, didn't I tell you about a product, for a product there is that matter of analysis. For me to do the analysis or to make finished goods, the raw materials that I need... Hello? I'm here, I'm here. I just turned it off. My ear was feeling a bit uneasy, that's why my ear was itching. That's why I... No, no, it's okay, it's okay. Okay. For example, for me, my QC, Quality Control, General QC, General Quality Control department, yes, or what do you call it, my Microbiology department, or my Qu-Com, Compliance, these segments, these departments, the divisions that will work, yes, their involvement with my product, from the start to the end of a finished good, wherever the involvement is... For example, a BOM is being created for me, yes. In this pharma, I have 248 master products. Yes. I have 864 finished goods here. Yes. Think about one thing here, my master product is 248, my finished goods are 864. So the difference here is about 606-616, yes. The mapping of these 616 master products changes, it changes when it goes to semi-finished goods. Now come, that means my variation is high, my demand is high, my raw material has arrived, my QC is being done, GQC is being done, microbiology is being done, now molecular biology is also being done, these layers of QC, everyone's demand or quality checking is also different. Yes. This checking, what will it be, what will be the specification, what is the demand, let me take a simple thing, let me take a packing material of mine. What do you call it, an inner carton. Imagine the inner carton has 24 specifications. Okay. This specification, again, they have what is called an international GMP guideline, yes. There is an ISO guideline. Then again, their internal one also has a, what do you call it, certification issue. Yes. That means, with the coordination of three, that specification, the form, the appendix, what do you call it, aligning it, collecting their numbers, setting the specifications in the proper place, and training them, and getting the work understood from them. Firstly, what am I doing, I am understanding the work from my program manager. Understanding it, I am going to them, taking things from them. I am working myself, getting the work done by them, and implementing the work. If you tell me that in the case of implementation... you are implementing it, right? You are implementing in the ERP, implementing in JAR. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, that's fine. We will have more continuous conversations, more in-depth. So we, whom do you report to? Now let's come to reporting. I, here, all the managers there are, be it the sales module, material management, FICO, or in the future, HRM is coming very shortly, Inshallah, yes. HRM... I actually report to everyone. I report to Arif sir, I, Rasel Ibn Bashar, yes, since I'm not a traditional employee, yes. Okay, so that means CTO, all other PMs and the IT manager? IT manager, yes. Okay. Our date today is 6/12/25. In this role, just with Monon Soft or JMI, how many years have you been there? I have been here for two years. Two years. Two years ago, did someone else do this job? Did you replace someone? No, no, no. Didn't I tell you, they have created the JAR, created the ERP, yes, but to run it, I am the one who created the wheel. Okay, you did that. That means, for all the departments of JMI, of Nipro JMI, or JMI, all the departments that are there and those who have interconnectivity with JAR, you have collected data from every stakeholder and incorporated it with development. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, that is your job. Okay. Alright, we will talk about some technical skills and some behavioral skills here. Although the whole thing will not be relevant to you here. Okay? But, why won't it be relevant? Because your job itself is different. For that reason, it won't be relevant. So, but we will just ask the questions here and if I can find relevance from the things you've said, after this, I will sit with you again. Inshallah, Inshallah. Okay? So, for technical skills, we will rate between one to five. One is starting and five is expert. Okay? And we will talk about behavioral skills. Then we will talk about career development opportunities. Since we will nurture the team in the future, plus we will think about training and other things that are there. So, whom will we train how, or how will they become more productive. Our specific main goal is to reduce running costs... so that, plus, to increase the productivity of employees. Because if employee productivity doesn't increase, running costs won't decrease. Okay? So we will do that. So, in terms of skills, in your past experience or in your education line, did you study in the software engineering line or some other line? I studied in the general line. My subject was management. Okay, you studied management. So, let me tell you the definition of management. Getting things, getting things done through other people and resources, I know how to. Okay, that's good. So in this case, since you are now included in a software development project, okay, in that case, do you have any idea about back-end or front-end development? It would be wrong to say I have none at all. I have the basic idea. Although we are traditional, very old-school people. I was actually... before this, I was in the banking sector for fifteen years. Okay. And there, the first ICT audit was done by me, that's the first thing. And the software implementation that happened there, it first happened at the local office, the biggest branch. I was the main coordinator for that as well. Okay. No, that's what I'm saying. Before this, before this, let me tell you another thing, another matter. That is, before this, I worked as an IT-enabled service manager, where I had 18 franchises, and I had the total responsibility for it. Total coordination, managing, explaining the work to them, understanding the work, billing, everything was done by me. Okay. Okay. Now you... Okay, that's fine. These questions, I think are not very relevant to you. But if I still ask you to rate, in terms of understanding front-end or back-end development, not in terms of development, since you work with these things, in terms of understanding, how much would you rate yourself? I would actually say five for JAR. I see. If it's not JAR? If it's not JAR, I will understand according to that. Since here, the languages or whose role is what or who plays how, I know, yes. Beyond that, I haven't actually gone yet. It's difficult to say because we have no shortage of languages. Yes, yes, that's true. In fact, you don't work with languages. No, no, no, not with that. For example, here I know who is working with which language and how, yes. Who is working with API, who is looking at the front-end, who is looking at the back-end, who is working in DBA, who is designing, who is making the form, if I catch whom, which work will be done, I have to understand this. Otherwise, I won't be able to work. But I am specifically asking you that in the case of actual coding, you don't have that kind of idea. But you have an idea in the case of data management. It would be wrong to say I don't know coding. My life started with coding. For example, when dBase was around, pay attention, think about the fasting about the dBase. Back then, there was dBase. You would create a color, you have to write about zero to two fifty-five. You will do coding, how do you think you have to do coding? My introduction to it was through coding. Do you remember back in 1990, sorry, in '88, when the first IBM brand machine came to Bangladesh... ...which had a memory of two megabytes, a hard disk of two megabytes, and a six-inch monitor. No, I don't remember because I was in school then. Well, congratulations. My SSC was in ninety-five. Alhamdulillah, no problem, no issue. Anyway, you people are very experienced, you know a lot. That time is not really a barrier. Today's kids, we are nothing to them, those who are modern. They are nothing, they know a lot of things, they know what's behind, they know what's ahead, yes. They are very focused. Your knowledge, your knowledge... there are many things I don't know that you do. No, the thing about knowledge is that you will know well in your expertise. I will know well in my expertise. For me, the concept is like this, work is not a subject, work is not a matter. Work is a simple thing. What's difficult is people. Okay, no, that's right. Do you have any idea about API development or integration, from the people you work with? What kind of? Could you elaborate a bit? How do they work with API? For example, since you are a data analyst... You might often think about how data will be captured from one system to another, or how the data will come, do you think about that or not? Okay, if you do, then API, API is for integration, even if you don't install it, do you have any idea about making the API work? I have no direct involvement in this, none. Okay. Not at all. Okay. Do you have any idea about databases? No, no, just give me a "no" for everything technical. Give me a "no". Instead of asking the next question, if it's technical, just give me a "no". Okay. Okay. No, I am still asking the questions. Yes, no, it's okay. I am still asking the questions. Do you have any idea about DevOps? Tell me, tell me. About DevOps? No, no. The thing about DevOps is the work we do like server maintenance, project upload to the cloud, and Docker, CI, CD, all these things. Okay. No, for example, they discuss here, they want to work with the cloud, I see and hear things. I am the building base. Okay, do you have any idea about system architecture? That's when Windows architect introduces... not that Windows, I mean our systematic... no, no, no, back then, about the architects of that time... by software architecture, I mean it could be any kind of architecture. But for example, JAR architecture. Since you work with every team, that means if you don't know or understand the system architecture well, then how the data will go from one place to another, that coordination is often hampered. So for that reason, what we do is, those who are system analysts, we train them about system architecture. No, let me explain something here. The master plan for this was made by an old person from our JMI who has left, the CFO sir. This master plan is in his hands. That's why many things still... he recently joined somewhere else. So for this reason, even the managers here, even Arif sir, they are all dominated by him. Okay. So for that reason, that's okay, that's not a problem. We can change jobs, we can leave. Okay? That's not a problem. So this is why we are intervening, so that, for example, if someone leaves in the future, our system is not hampered because of them. So that there is a fallback plan. Yes, so to make that forward plan, Javed sir has brought us in, so that in the future, the developments happen smoothly, plus, the work we are doing, we have to reverse engineer that now. Reverse engineering the total work to bring it to a... to bring it to a strong foundation. That's why we are saying these things. We will work with you. Sir, will this thing go to the factory level? Will you go to Nipro's factory level or that as well? We will go gradually, Inshallah, yes. Because ours is total automation. Now if we have to reduce production costs by automating, then there is no way other than automation. The big production here in production cost is in Nipro Pharma, in the pharma. Yes. Yes. So that's why we are saying, we will do it gradually. The main work we are doing is to first fix the basic things. Then gradually add things. Because if I don't fix it at the root, the things that are built on that mistake will be wrong. Okay? So for that reason... No, that won't be right. It will be even more wrong. Then it will be seen that this investment that Javed sir has made, the huge amount he has invested, crores of rupees he has invested... so that thing will become completely valueless. So now we... what are you talking about? Are you talking about JAR? I am talking about the total systematic build, JAR, everything combined. No, no, in the case of JAR, I must say one thing. A simple matter. JAR has done such a vast thing with so few resources, I don't believe you can bring another such thing to the market. No, no, that's right. I understand your point. And of this, we still have nothing. What do we have that's original? We work on Oracle, do we have any original version of Oracle, do we have any subscriptions? What do we have? Do we have anything in the office? What do we have that's original? Look at our laptops, our machines don't even work properly, they hang, do this, do that. Even our machines are not right. Okay. We have come to fix these very things. Now, you were talking about Oracle. Now let me tell you a small case study. Tell me. That is, a company in Germany, I won't tell you the detailed point-by-point details. The case study was like this, that a company with a very good reputation was massively, what do you call it, market-dominating, it had very good production, but manpower was less, salary was less, facilities were less, the machines were traditional, there was no modernity. A big company came and targeted them to capture their market. The thing was built right next to them. High-tech, technology, all machinery was state-of-the-art, people were highly trained. Everyone was brought in, but they couldn't get close to them. Later, some meritorious people like you were appointed to analyze why they couldn't get close to them. Despite having everything, high remuneration, high resources, high-tech things, trained people. Later it was found through analysis that it was due to only the harmonious environment. The owner is very good, he mixes with them cordially and the employees are also very good, they... to get them to do this work, what they did was, at one point they reduced the salary, they saw the output was the same. They reduced the light, the light, they reduced the light, still they saw the output was the same. Their production was not being hampered at all. Everything was fine with them. Later they found out the result was due to the harmonious environment. I told you this because we are working in a harmonious environment. Due to our Arif sir, due to our colleagues. They are doing work like anything. No, no, that's right. The heart of an organization is the employee. Okay? Those who are in leadership positions, they grow because of their employees. Yes, of course. Whether they are good or bad, I will not judge that. I will judge it as a machine. Because an organization is a machine, in that machine, the head, whether they are knowledgeable or not, whether they do good work or not, all the equipment, the tires, I mean from the tires to whatever else a machine has, if I consider it a car, if everything coordinates properly... ...then it can go very far. If it doesn't do that, then there is a problem. Okay? So in that case, since Javed sir is a very wise person, so we will try to figure out how to make this thing better. I forgot to ask one thing last time... When you mentioned the computer, I didn't know this before. So I will request, for the server, we have received some specifications, but I will go into investigation again next week. So, the PCs that you use or the laptops that you use, if you could give me the specification for each, in the column that you have, then I will talk about it and I will actually see how far ahead or behind you are in proportion to now. I don't give any decisions. I just assess and say that our... No, no, I just told you the result that came out from two companies, that despite everything, despite so much technology, they can't do it, because of the harmonious environment. The ownership is good, the workers are good, they work like a family. And nothing else. That's what I said. So, in the Excel document that you have, if you could add a specification for everyone's system, meaning the laptops you use or the PCs you use, to the document that Arif bhai has, then I will see that, for example, you are an analyst... ...what your PC should be like. I will then suggest that a system analyst's PC should be of this type. If it's not like this, then despite having productivity, their work will not progress because due to technical or technological gaps. Sure. Thank you. Now, imagine you are a mastermind. You can work with a lot of... I mean, you can work at the speed of lightning. Now, brother, how will you work at the speed of lightning if your PC goes "crack crack crack crack". So much of our work is going on, think about the condition of our server. So much of our work is going on. Yesterday, on the last date, Thursday, the data card went down, yes. Then it came back to that state again, yes. Meaning, the data card got overloaded. A lot. These are some technical things, that according to our logistic support, we are not what we should be. No, that's what we will work on, Inshallah, no problem. I believe it, I believe it. And what you said about the Chairman sir or the MD sir, the MD of Unido, our Nipro's Chairman, sir and our boss, the main boss, the main person, he is really dynamic, he is really wise, for this reason we are waiting to see on what measure he will evaluate us. No, Inshallah, and we... you probably know that we will work together... ...my company and Monon Soft. So, we hope for the best. Because, for instance, I am in the UK, or we work in the USA, the world's first, I mean the first two countries, first comes the US, then comes the UK. Okay. If we can't do something good from here, if we can't capture this market, then it won't work. So, to do that, whatever needs to be done, Inshallah, we will do it, no problem. Okay, let me tell you a funny thing. I asked my younger brother's wife, "Okay, you are a manager at KFC in America, you see a lot of people, so tell me, are Americans intelligent or Bengalis?" She said Bengalis. I asked, "How is that possible?" She said, "Bengalis know their multiplication tables, Americans don't." I'm the manager of KFC, no one gets a chance with me. Not a single penny's chance, because I learned the multiplication tables in my childhood. There is a gap here. What's the gap? It is that we... you know the saying, too many cooks spoil the broth? Our characteristic is sometimes like that. Since I have, you could say, spent half of my life in Bangladesh and half of my life in the UK. So it is seen that... if I talk about my son, he is in class eight, he has no textbooks. Okay? He goes to school, at school they teach him biology, they teach him math, they teach him chemistry, they teach him cooking, he can bake well, plus... ...whatever else there is, they teach English, they teach pronunciation. But that is limited to the school's eight to two, within that eight to two. At home, he... he comes home and he... I mean, he can do things that I can't, if I talk about technology. So what we do, he is being taught everything and there it's practical. Not memorization. Here they teach multiplication tables, they do teach multiplication tables here. They teach in such a way that we didn't learn. I now think that if I had learned the way my son is learning, then in the things where I am very excellent, no one could have held me back. Okay? So, working with people like this, and we go to different organizations, we go to different organizations and work with the people of those organizations. So then it is seen that I am working with a Bangladeshi organization, I am working with a UK organization, one difference is that here, for example, whatever you are excellent at, they grow that more. Or us too, whatever you are excellent at, I will grow that. I will not catch or see what you are bad at. Why? Because I don't need that. Sorry, one second. What happened, son? What is grandad doing? What is grandma doing? She is walking around and... Okay, let grandma do it, no problem, you go. I am in a meeting now. She is at the door to... Okay, why is she at the door, let grandma be, you go. I am in a meeting from here. Okay, my mother-in-law stays with us. So, she walks around or does things, a lot, plus she is a bit... I think she is seventy-four. But anyway, you go, you go watch TV, go. Go, let grandma do her work. I will deal with grandma later, okay? Mom, you finish in the toilet and then pray. I will finish my meeting and give you breakfast, go. You just go to the toilet, keep these things here. I am setting it up. So, what I was saying is that this gap, this gap, sometimes if we don't work with internal people, it's not possible to understand. Because a food store and specifically a, what do you call it, this technological innovation or a university or all these things, the difference is like sky and earth. So there, when a client goes or when an environment is created, it's totally dependent on the environment. In a food store, of course, a certain type of people will go, they might have intellect, they might have many things, but those who are working at the corporate level, they don't have the drive that those people have. Why am I saying this? Because I have worked at the lower level, I have worked at the mid-level, now I am working at the upper level. So I have seen all the systematic things there are. I worked in a hospital for twelve long years. Okay? As a... as a healthcare assistant. You have said it, I know. I was in that meeting. Okay, so I see work as work, but from there, if I have that... if I have the talent, of course, I will take myself to the corporate level. I will not stay at that level. No, here in Monon Soft, there is no shortage of glaring examples of this. Because here, you know, if someone gets angry, if someone gets upset, they just leave. And wherever they go, they go with triple the salary. Yes, that is there. Here in Monon Soft, that's the thing, there's no issue here. It's a common thing here. Anger, if someone gets angry once, they leave, and when they leave, they go with triple the salary. No, no, that's right. So this is... but they also come back regularly. How do they come back? They come, they come regularly, they chat. This environment... ...that harmonious environment I talked about, they missed that. Wherever they go, they get money, but they miss the environment. Here, everyone regularly keeps in touch and comes. No, that's right, even yesterday someone came. Let's go back to our... what is it called, let's go to the questionnaire. Do you have any idea about debugging or troubleshooting? Okay, let's not talk about debugging, the thing about troubleshooting, here I'll talk about some configurable matters. For example, in material management or production planning, in PP, yes. In these places and in FICO, in all places, some configurable things work, yes. There, this configurable thing, in that case, the topic of troubleshooting comes up. That, it's giving me this output, this shouldn't be coming, yes. If this happens, it will work, then I will go there and fix it. Troubleshooting has to be done. That's a good point. Now if we talk about troubleshooting, how much will you give yourself in troubleshooting? Five out of five. Fine. Okay. Document analysis and understanding. In your case, if I say, document... what kind of document? Could you elaborate a bit? What kind of document? Since you work with data, for example, you have brought data from one department, data from another department, you will coordinate the two and match them together. Now, if you don't understand the document, you won't be able to match it, plus you won't be able to tell the developer that this department runs this way, these are their data, this department runs that way, these are their data, but you have to... Let me give you an example. GQC, the second-in-command, Assistant Manager of the General Quality Control department, Matu সাহেব, he asked me if my background is in microbiology. Why? Because I was giving him an idea about microbiology. Okay, good. Am I clear? Yes. No, that's right. This microbiology... I understand documentation well because I have to understand these things to input them into the system. For example, 248 master products have been entered, they have been entered by my hand. Yes. Alhamdulillah. Here, for example, your, what do you call it, 894 FGs, they have been entered by our hand. Not just that, here, QC, your excipient, there is API here too. There is Active Pharmaceutical Ingredient, there is excipient, then there is packing material, primary packing material, secondary packing material, there are thousands of cases here too. Here, the specification for these three and a half thousand products, even if you take an average of ten or twelve, you calculate... All this is in our hands, entered by my hand, Alhamdulillah. Okay. So, in the case of documents, how much will you give yourself? I have to understand it, five. If I don't understand, the result will be bad at the root. That's what I'm saying. The work will not progress. Okay, we will now talk about behavioral skills. So, in time management, how much would you rate yourself? Time management. I won't talk about the past, I'll talk about the present. Current. I come to the office before everyone else. Okay, so how much will you give yourself? Five. Okay. About communication. How is your English or Bengali communication? If needed, I haven't settled yet, but Alhamdulillah, I can manage. In the perspective of Bangladesh, I will give it a five because I am not a foreigner, I am Bangladeshi. You'll give five in both? Yes, of course, Alhamdulillah. Okay. Um, your... and here, interpersonal is very important in our case, for those who work man-to-man, you have to work with everyone with understanding. That's why I've been saying from the beginning, work never seems difficult to me, I think people are difficult. That's true. How to mix with which person, how to move, how to take the work, and how to put pressure on them, it is very difficult to... Teamwork and collaboration, since you are talking about it... Alhamdulillah, five, five, five, five. Okay. Ownership of task. The ownership, in what perspective are you saying this, if you could just tell me, ownership... Tell me in the context of your work. Meaning, you own your work. Oh, everyone gets annoyed. Okay. That means you are persistent. Let me tell you about today's meeting, I protested about today's meeting. Why did the three o'clock meeting start at four? When the topic came up, I said this is official, not personal. You can't ask why the three o'clock meeting is at four? Of course, you have to ask. No, I'm saying, why the three o'clock meeting is at four, this is official and official time. Why are you asking, for what reason? This is not a personal matter, the official decision changed for an official reason. I don't need to understand why. You are doing your work, go on. The official procedure changed, this is a managerial decision. This is not a subordinate level matter, this is a managerial decision, a managerial matter. No, that can change. So how much will you give yourself for ownership? Alhamdulillah, five. Because what happens is, if I don't own something, if you don't own something, nothing will be good for you. No, no, no, that won't happen. At everyone's level... Never. It's only possible to grow if everyone at their own level owns their own thing. Otherwise, it will be seen that I am owning it, but the person I am associated with, if they don't own it, I will fail. Simple. You have to own it, it's a must. Otherwise, the quality won't be good either. Problem-solving skills. Alhamdulillah, good. Okay, how much will you give? Five, five, five, nothing less. Learning initiative. Very good. Okay, you're giving five to this as well. Okay. Adaptability. Alhamdulillah, very good. It seems all your questions are made just for me, isn't it? Okay, no, it's the same question for everyone. Then it's good, five. Okay. The conversation we'll have now, we'll have it in English. To understand... ...English levels, as well as your understanding of English. Sure, sure, sure. Why not? Which parts of your role do you feel you are strongest in? I am feeling which part? You know, I can create the interpersonal relationship between peoples, that I can understand the work, I can own the work. I think this is my special quality. Okay, which parts of your role do you struggle with? Struggle with? Sometimes to support the working people. Several times, same thing, feel mentally disturbed, but I control myself. Okay. What skills would you like to improve over the next 6 to 12 months? Oh, 6 to... I, I just dreaming about the JAR. It will be completed within 12 months. Skills, not JAR. Your skills. Of course, of course. JAR equal to my skill. HRM will be completed, I will be expert in HRM. FICO will be completed, I will be expert in FICO. I think only about the JAR now, right now. I am focusing on the JAR. Nothing else. How confident are you working across the full-stack environment? Alhamdulillah, fine. Very fine. What slows you down in your current data analytic role? Sorry, again? What slows you down in your current analytic role? Manpower. Okay. And time. Manpower and time. Okay. What new technologies or tools do you want to learn? Uh, yeah, definitely AI. Okay. What type of task or responsibilities would you like more? Very difficult to say. Quantify. Okay. Um, do you have the right resource and documentation to perform your work? Right resources and documentation? What kind of right resources and documentation? Related to your work, whatever... what you do. No, no, no, think about that. According to our previous CFO sir and the project manager designed the program. They are working according to their forms and giving me the master data requirement. I collect it from the field source and institution and input them. Proper documentation? I have a lot of confusion about it. Proper documentation, there should be a distinguished documentation. If you ask me about the OQPQ, AQ, there is no OQPQ. Okay. But, here, I have to mention one thing especially, that is, JAR is not yet completed. Think, we are working, the institution, along with, among the institution we are working, they are our development partner. Yes. They are... especially Nipro JMI Pharma, they are our development partner. JAR is not completed, but we are working with them, they are working with us. They are our development partner. Here, the documentation task is not completed, documentation is not completed. Okay. Okay, that's fantastic. Do you think that if we complete the documentation, that will be a stronger position for us? Or if we don't complete the documentation, what type of mishap we would have in the future? Without documentation, the institution, this product, JAR, will not be completed. Without documentation, this is not possible. You have to have the recognition, you have to have the documentation, you must. It has no alternate. So, from your perspective, we must finalize the documentation and then we would see the end. If you want to, think about, in a page, you are writing in the first line, then the second line, then the third line. Again, you are entering another line in the second, another line in the fourth, another line in the fifth. One after another. Your line is not completed. Definite. You can't say this is the first line. The first line is... this is volatile. At this moment, you can't complete the documentation. Two things I want to discuss with you. I know that talking with you is taking a little bit longer time. Other people, they will be very, um, not, what I would say, in a good mood. But I just wanted to talk to you. You talk about documentation and understand that due to my understanding and due to my work with you, understand, yes, we need documentation, we will do that. In relation with the unregistered or unlicensed version, what is your concern about that? Unlicensed version? Unlicensed version of the database, the Oracle database. What is your concern? Think, one thing, this is an unlicensed version, it's true, but another segment is, the Oracle institution has declared that 19c, up to 19c is free. Yes. We can use the up to 19c version only. Up to 19c. Yes. But after that, we can't use it. But Oracle introduced the AI version. We are deprived from them. Because we are not subscribed. Yeah. Few things that... Oracle is a tremendous, tremendous DB and tremendous, also expensive also, Oracle is also expensive and tremendous, but we are deprived of this sort of facilities. Because, you know, Windows or all, any, any applications, they have an earlier version and they have a newer version. So what they do, they prioritize it for people they don't have money so you can use it but that's free, but you can't get the cream. Yes. The old version, they will never maintain a particular way to support those things. If there is a problem in the database structure or anything happens, then they are not going to fix it because they don't worry about that. And another thing, not the latest version will make you updated. You need also a training. Yes. You must have, have to have the development point. Without target and point and the course and the logistic support, all of will make you... If someone without the... with his own capacity, if someone learns something, that is the also development of the JAR. Yes. If you give me some sort of training and courses, it will reach the JAR. Am I... Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I totally understand what you're saying and what you're coming from, but that's fine. We are creating a versatile workforce for JMI or Monon Soft. We will have a to complete the current version 0.1. We will have a global roadmap that we will work on specifically some methodology to extend JAR to the global market. As well as we will have training facilities, career development facilities for AI and DevOps. In this scenario, where do you fit in? You know, first we have to register, without registration, without recommendation, without government clearance, we cannot move on across the border. We can make a deal with the cross border... That's the thing is the process, that we will go through with the process, it doesn't matter. But I asked you, I asked you, where do you fit in? Current JAR or global roadmap or career developments? Inshallah, JAR will dominate in the Bangladesh also out of the Bangladesh, cross-border of Bangladesh. You know, 13 countries we are exporting products in 13 countries. First, we have, I mean we have 13 friends. who will, we will eagerly waiting for the JAR. They are waiting for the JAR. After completing the JAR, it will be their another platform to work on JAR. Am I right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I am saying that where do you fit in? In the version 0.1, global roadmap or in, umm, AI? Both, both, both in the Bangladesh also in the global. I am thinking with the first, out of the circle, I am thinking first the 13 countries, our exporting 13 countries. Okay. Um, that's end of my questions. Do you have any question for me? Oh, if you don't mind, your left eye is smaller. Is there any problem? That's due to my brain tumor surgery. Oh. Oh, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. So, I had a brain tumor surgery in 2009. And due to that, um, I'm left... my left side is weak, I'm deaf, and other complications, I have lots of, hundreds of other complications, but that's not, um, that's not... that's why I am very strong in training teams and creating new things. Uh, disabilities, atmosphere, and all other things should not bind you to do great work. If you are great, if you have great knowledge, if someone helps you to overcome your barriers, you can do great work. Yes. Last of all, not only me, also we, eagerly waiting for your very good news, which will improve us. First, we thought that you will give us a huge AI platform and training and a lot of key things to work on it. Yes, definitely, Inshallah, we will, we will work together... Now, I am, I am also hopeful that you will give us a lot of high, high-configured system. I will talk about it to Javed bhai, so don't worry. But I know... server, also server, system... all things... hard things... Yeah, because, because I cannot give you, I can propose like, okay, this is the things they have. So they... I am not demanding you, I hope, I hope, I am not demanding you... I will ask you... I am just the person to present him my findings and he will take the decision. Okay? Your positive attitude will... I don't make decisions. I am just going to present the findings and show him like, okay, this is their state and that you have to do this, you have to do this, you have to do so if you do this one, you will gain this. If you don't do this one, you will lose this. So this is... Thank you, thank you... this is a lot of us, this will a lot of us. Thank you, thanks a lot. Okay, can you bring the next person please? Sure, sure, sure. Mr. Nasimul. Our Nasimul. Okay. Thank you, goodbye. Thank you, thank you, bye-bye, thank you for your time. Assalamu Alaikum. How are you? Yes, Alhamdulillah. How are you? I'm fine, Alhamdulillah. Okay, I'll just take your form for a moment. Nasimul Karim. Yeah. Okay, just give me a second.