Yes, she's she's going to going to join.
Okay.

Uh, let me give a little update about Fariha Tabassum. Uh, she's our main uh, testing guy, testing guy. And she is also a certified, uh, tester.
Mhm.
And she is also preparing some uh, handouts and uh, user manuals beside her testing works.
Okay.
So, she's she's going to join soon. Please wait.

Will she join?
She... Sumon... She has already joined.
Why did it get disconnected? I am doing it.
The link that I... has your electricity problem been solved?
Uh, the electricity problem has been slightly solved.
Okay.
I mean, the work is still going on, the work is going on.
The substation has been shifted.
Okay.

Hello.
Hello. How are you?
Yes, I'm well, thank you.
Okay. Will you kindly tell me your name?
My name is Fariha Tabassum.
Okay. And you are, job title?
Junior Software Engineer.
Junior Software Engineer. Who do you report to?
I report to Sumon sir, Sumon Raj.
You report to Sumon. Okay. How many years have you been in this role?
At Mononsoft?
Yes, I've been at Mononsoft for two and a half years.
2.5 years.
Today our discussion will be like this: first we'll talk about technical skills, then we'll talk about behavioral skills, then I'll ask some questions. So, a mix of Bengali and English. So, first we'll start with Bengali, then we'll move to English. First, we will work on technical skills. Here, I will ask you to rate your skills. You will rate yourself between one to five.
Okay, fine.
So if we start, do you work part-time or full-time?
I work full-time.
You work full-time. Okay. So, first of all, I'm asking, what kind of knowledge do you have in back-end and front-end development?
I have an idea, but I'm actually employed here as a tester, as a Quality Assurance Engineer. So, I'm not really related to back-end and front-end development in that way.
If I ask you to mark this, how much would you give yourself between one to five?
I would say one, because my background is actually in EEE.
Okay, in EEE. Okay. Electrical Engineering.
Yes.
Okay.
I mean, I understand coding. If you ask me to write code, I can write code, but since I don't have any practical experience, I don't have the courage to mark myself as very good or even okay in this.
Okay. Do you have any experience in API development and integration?
I don't have experience with API development, but I have worked with APIs in Postman and done some other work, for example, on a test basis, whatever I needed, I worked based on that.
Okay.
How much would you give yourself for API?
I would say three.
Three, okay. Do you do both office-based and remote work, or do you only do remote work?
I do both office-based and remote work. Until now, I had mainly been doing office-based work. Very recently I had a baby. So I was on maternity leave and since then, until now, I have been somewhat remote. My six months just ended.
Okay. How much knowledge do you have in database management?
I did a course on database management. For that reason, I would say I have quite good knowledge of database management. Although I haven't worked on it much in this office, I can do basic handling or even table creation and things like that. So I would rate myself a three or a four on this.
Okay.
Database optimization and query tuning, can you do that?
No, I am not very experienced in that.
Okay. Do you have any idea about DevOps?
Yes, I have an idea, but I have never worked with it.
Okay. How is your understanding of system architecture?
For system architecture, I can understand it well in the layman's terms that are provided. But if I'm asked to go deeper, I'm not very comfortable up to that point.
Okay. Then how much should I give you, zero or one?
No, please give me a one. I understand something at least.
Okay. Debugging and troubleshooting, which is your main responsibility.
Yes.
How well do you understand it?
I think I understand it quite well. Of course, my manager, Sumon sir, would be able to say better. But I would say I can debug pretty well. I am willing to give myself 4.5 and up.
Okay.
Quality, document quality, and document preparation. If you were asked to work on an application's documentation or to work based on understanding the documentation, there are two aspects. One is creating the document, and the other is doing your work after reading the document. In that case, how would you rate yourself?
In this too, I would give 4.5 and above, because from the very beginning, when I wasn't as integrated in testing, I have been doing documentation, creating documents for any feature, and then testing that feature by reading the documentation, which is something we always have to do. So I do that. So I would say I'll give 4.5 and up.
Okay. Now we'll talk about behavioral skills.
How are you with time management?
In time management, praise be to God, I think I am very good. I'm not exactly sure how I'll be in this scenario now, because I just joined after six months. But from my past history, I'd say I'm good at time management.
How much would you give?
4.5 and up.
Okay.
If we talk about time management, office time plus work time. You are given a task and you have to debug something very quickly after testing it. In that case, what do you do in which scenario? You come to the office on time, you have to leave the office on time, but your work is stuck. What do you do then?
It has happened that I've waited a bit to finish the work and then left, or sometimes, since I am a working woman, I have to think that if I don't start for home early, I might get stuck in a long line at the metro and won't get on. So what I do is, I have worked and submitted while on my way, that has also happened. Or I've come home and submitted, that has also happened.
Okay. How are your communication skills?
I would say very good. I'll give 4.5 and up. I like to talk, I usually don't have much trouble talking to people, and I can understand what they are trying to say, or if I can't explain it in one way, I can explain it in another way.
English communication?
English communication also, I'm very pretty good at it. I took the IELTS exam, and my result in that was 7.5.
Okay, so if the rating is out of five, I would like to give close to five.
Okay, 4.5.
In terms of teamwork and collaboration, how are your skills?
Yes, thank God, it's good. I have been doing teamwork so far, I work as a team with many of my colleagues since my job is testing. So far in teamwork, I enjoy it very much and it seems to me that they are very satisfied with my output.
How much would you give yourself?
4.5 and up.
Okay. Task ownership.
Yes.
Do you understand task ownership well?
Task ownership as in... I'll tell you what I understand, then you can tell me if it's correct. A task was given to me, I did the task, and after doing it, I either made a mistake or I did it correctly. If I made a mistake, then owning up to it, is it that?
No. Ownership means working on it as if it's your own.
Oh, I see. No, that's definitely there. I can make mistakes or correct them, it's not about the result.
Considering it your own.
For example, you went to the market, your husband chose something for you, but you didn't like it, but it was given to you anyway. You are wearing it, but you are not owning it.
No, not like that. Usually, if I'm given a task, I take it gladly, because I enjoy testing.
Okay. For example, your boss gave you a task, you took the task and you are doing it out of responsibility, but you are not owning it, you are not loving it. You are not nurturing it. You are not creating anything new from it. That means you are not owning the thing.
Not owning it.
I usually own it because when I joined testing... when I joined, I joined as a complete fresher. At that time, I was more leaning towards database. I was thinking of working on databases or trying to join as a DBA. Then I saw that, okay, I can do the work in DBA, but I am more prone to testing and finding more bugs than a lot of other people. That's why I actually... In ownership...
4.5 and up.
How are your problem-solving skills?
I would say good. I'll give it a four because it's not like I can solve every problem all the time.
Okay. Learning initiative?
Since I am learning this and trying to get several degrees, I would say 4.5 and up for this as well.
Okay. Adaptability?
In adaptability too, I am prone to adaptation. Since I joined as a complete fresher, I have been able to adapt so far and want to do even better. So, I will give 4.5 and up for this as well.
Okay. We will now move to some question-based things. In that question-based part, I will ask some questions and I will want the answers from you.
First of all, which parts of your role do you feel you are strongest in?
I feel like I'm the strongest in my role as a tester, especially debugging, especially finding bugs and communicating it with the developer that this is the bug and this is happening, why it's happening and so on.
Okay. Which parts of your role you struggle with?
Um, I struggle with, sometimes I struggle with understanding the actual task that I am, I have been given. That should I test it like this or should I test it like that? Should I do just black box testing or should I also do regression testing? So that's a bit I, I sometimes, I struggle with that bit.
Okay. What skills would you like to improve over next 6 to 12 months?
I would like to, uh, improve my automation testing skills. I haven't exactly been able to learn automation yet, but I would really like to learn it and develop it.
Okay. How confident are you working with across the full stack development?
Um, I am pretty confident that I'm learning. So in a learning curve, I would say pretty confident in that case. Because the full stack testing, in, in especially in testing, full stack testing, I have done quite a bit of it and I am looking forward to doing a lot of it more.
Okay. What slows you down in your current development role?
Um, this is a trick, I mean it's a tricky answer because, uh, it's a, testing is a slow process. I have to test it, then someone will develop it and then I have to test it, then I have to give them the bugs that I found or issues that I found, and then they'll develop it again or they will fix that issues and then I'll test it again. So it's a long process all together. So I don't think there's any one reason or any good reasons to slow it down. It's just a slow process.
Okay.
My next question, what new technologies or tools do you want to learn?
Uh, I already, I think I already answered it. I want to learn Selenium. It's a test automation tool.
Okay.
Anything else?
Um, Appium is also a thing I think I want to learn, but I'm not sure yet what it's, if it's a bit different than Selenium. But it's also something I want to learn.
Okay. What type of tasks or responsibilities would you like more?
I would like testing across the webs. Uh, a lot of features in Zarb website I haven't tested yet or I'm not given the task of testing. Like, like PP or uh, other features or other, uh, other websites like in NJML I'm currently working in NJML, NJPL and JSMDL. So if I am, um, I would like more testing in maybe PP, product promotion, product management or whatever new features are coming next.
Okay. Uh, uh, I have a question, Nesar bhai, uh, if you allow me.
Please.
Uh, do you like to do uh, software development documentation for Zarb? Are you interested, uh, like functional specification, design specification, test specification, or IQ, OQ, PQ, document, traceability matrix? Uh, do you have any idea on those documents?
Uh, some of them I have already done and I would say I enjoyed it, but not that much, but I did enjoy it a little. And also I don't know if I am a good documented, I mean I am, I am not sure that it's a very global standard wise product that I produce, the document that I...
Okay, okay, I understood.
Okay. So what we are thinking now to work on Zarb version 0.1 to complete it, and as well as work on global roadmap with Zarb because we are, we gonna identify five key areas and based on that we will extend Zarb to that level.
Okay.
Uh, we also dividing our workforce in three categories. One is Zarb, the current Zarb system. One is DevOps, so we're gonna be doing new projects and those things. And one is AI. So combination of together, we're gonna be working together. So in which space do you think that you are most suitable in?
Um, I have already worked in Zarb so I know I am suitable for it. And I am very looking forward to learning DevOps. So that as well. And I don't really have much idea about AI or if testing, how I would integrate testing in AI. So I'm not comfortable with it, but I would really like to learn it.
Okay. Um, do you have any question for me?
Not that I can think of, sorry.
Okay, that's fine. Uh, Arif bhai, um, we completed with her. So we just, we're gonna be doing, uh, more work with you as well as more discussion. Uh, so it's a continuous process. Thank you very much for joining today's discussion and, um, that's, that's, that's all for today.
Okay. Have a good day.
You too, thank you.
Okay, thank you. You can leave now.
Okay sir.

Okay, Naser bhai, next, uh, uh, participant is Chandan Ojha. Chandan Ojha.
Chandan Ojha. Chandan Ojha.
Okay, I got it.
Uh, let me introduce him. Uh, he is uh, junior API developer working under, uh, Shahzadul's guideline. Uh, you already, you already talked with our API lead Shahzadul. So he is the junior of Shahzadul. Uh, Chandan, join.

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